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Full name

I think his full name was 'Marcus Aurelius Severus Antoninus'. It is in a handbook from my professor 'Roman Law'

Bad Press Challenged

In his Caracalla - A Military History (Pen and Sword Books, 2017) Finnish historian Ilkka Syvanne (whose biography should appear in the article's bibliography) argues persuasively that Caracalla was actually one of Rome's most efficient rulers, applying military tact and diplomacy to achieve realistic ends. A careful sifting through the primary sources yields biases (bad press which has generally condemned Caracalla), which Syvanne ably addresses. He implies, at last, that had Caracalla lived, he might very well have conquered Parthia which, at the time of his death, was experiencing internal dissension. The Antonine Constitution made almost everyone within the Empire a Roman citizen and thus stifled thoughts of internal dissension in the provinces. Changes to the military, including to tactics and equipment, are also attributable to Caracalla whose successors, Macrinus, Elagabalus and Severus Alexander, hadn't an iota of Caracalla's military wisdom. Gerry Max, student of Roman history 2600:6C44:1A3F:D86A:B403:4768:3F2E:D30A (talk) 21:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Parthia which, at the time of his death, was experiencing internal dissension" That is a bit of an understatement. Caracalla died in 217. A civil war of the Parthian Empire started in 213, between rival kings Vologases VI and Artabanus IV of Parthia. The Empire collapsed in 224, conquered by Ardashir I and replaced by the Sasanian Empire (224–651). Dimadick (talk) 09:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'Embroiled in civil war' better states it. 2600:6C44:1A3F:D86A:9D7D:93C1:62E2:9C66 (talk) 13:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous grammatical syntax

Caracalla responded to this insult by slaughtering the deputation of leading citizens who had unsuspectingly assembled before the city to greet his arrival in December 215, before setting his troops against Alexandria for several days of looting and plunder.

I humbly ask someone with a love of the English language and the power to edit to fix this. The reader is to assume that the leading citizens assembled unsuspectingly, when I think the intent of the author is to say that the assembly of leading citizens "did not expect" Caracalla would slaughter them for the sins of satirizing Alexandrians.

A simple edit would read:

Caracalla responded to this insult by slaughtering the unsuspecting deputation of leading citizens assembled... 172.56.105.49 (talk) 20:00, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks. Mr rnddude (talk) 05:10, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to request that we add a sentence or two mentioning the portrayal of Caracalla in the recently released ‘Gladiator II’ film; there is already a similar edit on the Emperor Geta page. Porpstheseus (talk) 08:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Remsense ‥ 论 08:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Under the section Death "Sin" points to Nanna (god), which leads to a disambiguation page that is confusing. It should point to Sin (mythology). 89.133.251.63 (talk) 10:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done LizardJr8 (talk) 01:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Under section Death "Carrhae" points to "Harran (city)", which does not exist. The Harran article exists and Carrhae already redirects to it. Simply link to "Carrhae".
Typo: Under section Death it reads "A Scythian bodyguard of Caracalla killed Martialis his lance." It should be "with his lance."

89.133.251.63 (talk) 10:20, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done LizardJr8 (talk) 01:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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|thumb|Roman denarius of emperor Caracalla, 212 AD.]]

I request to add an image of a wonderful MS (mint state) Roman denarius of emperor Caracalla minted around the time he issued his “Constitutio Antoniniana” in 212 AD. Apaleutos25 (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Remsense ‥ 论 14:29, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now asking: is there a reason you could elucidate why we should prefer this over the denarius already in the article? Remsense ‥ 论 14:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also wanted to include his Roman ancestry however if both his paternal grandmother and paternal grandfather had indigenous Libyan ancestry he has more Libyan ancestry on his paternal side than Punic or Italic. His grandmom was Italic-Libyan and grandfather Libyan-Punic. I included a reference. If you could include all three it would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbatlas (talk • contribs) 17:42, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Caracalla was born in Lugdunum, Gaul (now Lyon, France), on 4 April 188 to Septimius Severus(r. 193–211) and Julia Domna, thus giving him Libyan, Italic and Punic, paternal ancestry and Arab maternal ancestry. Jbatlas (talk) 16:26, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. cyberdog958^Talk 08:46, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Libyan Ancestry

I was in the middle of editing when someone else’s edit had been approved. I also suggested adding his Italic ancestry however he’s actually Libyan, Punic, and Italic on his father’s side. The indigenous Libyan ancestry is being left out when his paternal grandmom is Italic-Libyan and his paternal grandfather is Libyan-Punic. Thanks Jbatlas (talk) 17:46, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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His father’s Wikipedia page reads, “On his mother's side, he descended from Roman immigrants (the Fulvii) who had intermarried with locals of Libyan origin. His father, Publius Septimius Geta, hailed from a family of Libyan-Punic origin. Severus had thus Italic, Libyan and Punic ancestry.[9] He was described as "Libyan by race", by the Roman historian and senator Cassius Dio.“

^[1] Jbatlas (talk) 18:05, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done with cited source. Mr rnddude (talk) 23:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

^ Birley, Anthony R. (1999), pp. 212–213. Septimius Severus: The African Emperor. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-134-70745-4.

[1] Birley, Anthony R. (1999), pp. 212–213. Septimius Severus: The African Emperor. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-134-70745-4.

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