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The fourth paragraph under the Intermediate Murders section begins: "On April 23, Dahmer lured Ronald Flowers Jr. to his house; however, after giving Flowers a drugged coffee, both he and Flowers heard Dahmer's grandmother call, "Is that you, Jeff?"[132] "
The date is actually April 2, 1988 as stated in Flowers's testimony in the trial, recording here: COURT TV (Director). (2022, September 21). WI v. Jeffrey Dahmer (1992): Dr. Olson & Victim Ronald Flowers Jr. [Video recording]. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MyRF-lnMMo
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James Doxtator is referred to as a 14 Year old Native American Prostitute in this article. The source for this is given as a name that does not match the ISBN that was listed. It is also a horrible way to refer to a child. None of the contemporary media mentions this. Sex workers are people, sure, and their deaths matter. But there was no evidence he was one and he was, most importantly, a child. Who cannot and could not consent and this language is deeply hurtful. He was 14, he was Native American and he was a victim. That is what we know. I think the reference to prostitution should be removed as there seems to be no corroborating source that knew him that said this and this is not the kind of thing that should be based on speculation after a child was murdered. 1.41.58.35 (talk) 08:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC) Elenath[reply]
The source is Wilson, Colin; Wilson, Damon (2006). The World's Most Evil Murderers: Real-Life Stories of Infamous Killers. Bath, England: Parragon Books Ltd. ISBN 978-1-405-48828-0. Do you have access to that book? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Contemporary media will shirk from facts. Nobody is denying he was a victim and a human being. I will check the reference but he was a sex worker. Dahmer offered him $50 to spend the night with him and he agreed. The bus stop(?) where Dahmer encountered him was notorious for teenage male sex workers to loiter. They engaged in "activity" before he was drugged and murdered. Dahmer remembered him specifically by two small scars reminiscent of cigarette burns on his chest near his nipples and this detail helped identify him. If you look at the most popular picture of Doxtator the background has been trimmed because the image sources from a booking photo for sexual solicitation he received in, I think, September of 1987.--Kieronoldham (talk) 23:24, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: As stated by Kieronoldham, "Contemporary media will shirk from facts. Nobody is denying he was a victim and a human being. I will check the reference but he was a sex worker. Dahmer offered him $50 to spend the night with him and he agreed. The bus stop(?) where Dahmer encountered him was notorious for teenage male sex workers to loiter. They engaged in "activity" before he was drugged and murdered. Dahmer remembered him specifically by two small scars reminiscent of cigarette burns on his chest near his nipples and this detail helped identify him.", If you believe this is wrong you may re-open your request with reliable sources. Thanks Valorrr (talk) 03:24, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, that was my assumption. If you have better sources, by all means copy them here. The only "issue" I have is that content, whatever it is, must be reliably sourced. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:39, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, I have already searched for better sources online, and found none. You might have better luck? Additionally, other editors may have a view on this, which is why I opened the thread here. In my experience "last words" are very often likely to have been invented, even (or perhaps especially) for "notorious persons". Martinevans123 (talk) 16:48, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies that was bit crude respond from me usually stuff like this will be in ''Serial killer last words'' instead of just ''Jeffrey Dahmer last words'' even thou i think there some there too, do you mind trying to find some you think are ''high'' sources again? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 16:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have done all the searching I intend to, for now, thanks. I think it's probably best if I leave this thread for other editors to contribute to, if they wish to. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Done. That is an error in Joel Norris's book (p. 155). Thanks for spotting.--Kieronoldham (talk) 04:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done: As stated by Kieronoldham, "Contemporary media will shirk from facts. Nobody is denying he was a victim and a human being. I will check the reference but he was a sex worker. Dahmer offered him $50 to spend the night with him and he agreed. The bus stop(?) where Dahmer encountered him was notorious for teenage male sex workers to loiter. They engaged in "activity" before he was drugged and murdered. Dahmer remembered him specifically by two small scars reminiscent of cigarette burns on his chest near his nipples and this detail helped identify him.", If you believe this is wrong you may re-open your request with reliable sources. Thanks Valorrr (talk) 03:24, 5 April 2025 (UTC)